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Hi all,

I'm searching for my original color ,of my touring2000spider,

it was sprayed red but I want the original white color back with the red interior.

can someone tell me the exact color code ??

uptill now I 've found the next old alfa colors , but which belongs to my spider 1959 ??

gardenia white 20005 and 19447
antique white 18010
mayflowerwhite 13105 and 18651
white 15478
spino bianco ?
indian ivory 15480


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According to the May 25, 1965 Alfa Romeo Parts Bulletin on Paint Equivalents, Gardenia White, Antique White, White, and Indian Ivory were all available for the 2000 Spider. You will have to contact the Alfa Romeo Archives to find out exactly which color your particular chassis number originally came with.

How are you coming along with my old bodyshell? FYI, that car came from the factory as Grigio Grafite.

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Hi all,

I'm searching for my original color ,of my touring2000spider,

it was sprayed red but I want the original white color back with the red interior.

can someone tell me the exact color code ??

uptill now I 've found the next old alfa colors , but which belongs to my spider 1959 ??

gardenia white 20005 and 19447
antique white 18010
mayflowerwhite 13105 and 18651
white 15478
spino bianco ?
indian ivory 15480


Regards Frank ( The Netherlands )

I think Indian Ivory looks like a light baby poop mustard color. UGLY!!
The car looks great in dark blue with red interior or dark grey with dark blue interior, or dark green with tan interior..

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Hi all,

I'm searching for my original color ,of my touring2000spider,

it was sprayed red but I want the original white color back with the red interior.

can someone tell me the exact color code ??

uptill now I 've found the next old alfa colors , but which belongs to my spider 1959 ??

gardenia white 20005 and 19447
antique white 18010
mayflowerwhite 13105 and 18651
white 15478
spino bianco ?
indian ivory 15480


Regards Frank ( The Netherlands )
It's an interesting question. I agree with Arno that you need to get more info from the Alfa Historichal Archives.

Why is the question interesting?

The sales literature and press pictures prominently show white cars, but none of the Alfa sales literature and none of the Alfa bibles (most notably D'Amico & Tabucchi) list white colors for 102 and 106 Spiders. The references all seem to come from technical bulletins and research by the likes of Tom Zat, Eric Harrison, etc.

Here are the PPG codes for above mentioned paints:

Bianco (White, Mayflower White / no AR code found): PPG # 8606
Bianco Gardenia (Gardenia White / AR-005): PPG # ALF005
Bianco Gardenia (Gardenia White / AR-107): PPG # 8382
Bianco Antico (Antique White, Cream White / AR-010): PPG # 8393, ALF010
Biancospino (White, Chalk White, Hawthorn White, AR-001, AR-013): PPG # 8812
Giallo Paglierino (Pale Yellow, AR-105): PPG # none available (but Glasurit lists a formula on their web site)

I wouldn't want to bet whether the correct color is Gardenia White (and which one of the two) or Antique White, but Hawthorn or Chalk White (Biancospino) is also a contender (although not listed above). Giallo Paglierino is a straw yellow color with a hint of green -- way too yellow to be considered a white. BTW: My records show different KF factory codes for Giallo Paglierino and Indian Ivory.

Again, the Alfa archives may provide some clarification. Please post what their response is. It would provide another piece for documenting and figuring out the paint puzzle.

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here are the original collar code for 2000/2600 Spider and sprint
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here are the original collar code for 2000/2600 Spider and sprint
That's exactly what I meant in my earlier post: The list above is missing a white for both the 102 and 106 Spiders. Grigio Biacca being listed as "Weiss" (white) which is incorrect, because Grigio Biacca (AR-702) is not white but a light grey.
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This cart I have from the German 2000/2600 Club.
There is 2 white
010 Gianco Antico
702 Grigio biacca
The first you give is covering the period 1954 to 1960, and it contains the 2600 models and no 2000 spider, something doesn't fit.
The second list states for 2000 spider Gregio Biacca as the only white.
I cant se anything else. that white collars that you mentioned, wasn't used on the 2000 spider
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I can only agree with Stu a dark blue or this silver collar dress the in the most beautiful way.
Let me emphasise ITS NOT OUR CAR, our car don't have an original collar
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Sorry something slipped in by mistake
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I may be dead-wrong, but these cars from the German sales brochure look pretty white to me. (Pictures adapted from CarDisc CD).
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I can only agree with Stu a dark blue or this silver collar dress the in the most beautiful way.
Let me emphasise ITS NOT OUR CAR, our car don't have an original collar
The Swiss car looks like either medium or light grey metallic (very pretty, but not an original color).

Grigio Biacca ia very close to the color on my car. (My parts car was originally Grigio Biacca and I was surprised to see how close the colors were). My car has a hint of blue/pink in the grey. Either one cannot be mistaken as white.
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And this is Giallo Paglierino (AR-105):
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Its all right, I know that there is white cars out there, and I have seen this sales material before. But the old sales materiel ,was not a really picture it was modified, don't know the right American word, prior to printing, thou they look white, the list you give in and the one I gave in ,states the same collars
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The air went in the hard top, its that standard on a 2600. You will have a beautiful car when you are finished
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The air went in the hard top, its that standard on a 2600. You will have a beautiful car when you are finished
It's a fibre-glass aftermarket hardtop. Don't know who made it and it's the only one I've ever seen. Thank you for the compliment -- I expect the car to be on the road this year.

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