FYI: One of the nicest 102 toolkits I've ever seen is currently on eBay

[IRONBLOCK]

Ricardo, you have a very nicely restored and presented tool box with most, if not all the original tools, etc. The tools appear to be in very nice (for their age) original condition. Although the photographs presented on ebay were slightly lacking in detail, you obviously have the detailed photographs to document the condition of the 'restored' tool box. The only thing about the listing that bothered me was the term "Remanufactured" which to me indicates that the tool box (and or tools) had been recently made as opposed to restored originals. Both here and on ebay you do state that the tool box is a restored original.
I have read a lot of discussion about 2000/2600 tool boxes and tools and I agree that while the tools are marginally useful, they do indicate just how special Alfa considered these cars when they were created. While the Giulietta, Giulia & GT cars received a simple tool roll (as did most Ferrari) the Touring 2000/2600 and similar (Vignale, Ghia?)cars received a very distinctive, almost jewelry like, display case. I would not be surprised to see this tool box sell for between $3,500 and $4,000 or perhaps more if the right bidders line up.
I am still looking for a great deal on a complete Duetto tool roll; perhaps some day.

[AR2000-102MX]

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Originally Posted by IRONBLOCK Ricardo, you have a very nicely restored and presented tool box with most, if not all the original tools, etc. The tools appear to be in very nice (for their age) original condition. Although the photographs presented on ebay were slightly lacking in detail, you obviously have the detailed photographs to document the condition of the 'restored' tool box. The only thing about the listing that bothered me was the term "Remanufactured" which to me indicates that the tool box (and or tools) had been recently made as opposed to restored originals. Both here and on ebay you do state that the tool box is a restored original. I have read a lot of discussion about 2000/2600 tool boxes and tools and I agree that while the tools are marginally useful, they do indicate just how special Alfa considered these cars when they were created. While the Giulietta, Giulia & GT cars received a simple tool roll (as did most Ferrari) the Touring 2000/2600 and similar (Vignale, Ghia?)cars received a very distinctive, almost jewelry like, display case. I would not be surprised to see this tool box sell for between $3,500 and $4,000 or perhaps more if the right bidders line up. I am still looking for a great deal on a complete Duetto tool roll; perhaps some day.

[twoliterlover]

I realize no one ever really uses the special little two liter and 2600 tool sets except perhaps the hex head 1mm / 17mm combo to check levels in tranny, rear end, remove the gas filter on the bottom of the tank, or tighten the two liter cam covers. Still, I was just looking at the one box that I understood was being called original or restored or something, and see that not all the wrenches are from the same set (or was that one of the other sets they were talking about). They may look somewhat similar, but it is not a set when there there is NO open end 17 x 14 wrench (probably the most common nut sizes on a two liter), and the one shown is a 21 x 18 -- two sizes I doubt I have ever used on that size of car. The smallest wrench -- 7mm seems not from the same set at all. But, like I said, no one ever really uses these if he has any decent metric set. Maybe, once upon a time in the US metric was so unusual that having these tools come with the cars made great sense. In the early 60's it certainly was. I recall that when I got my first Alfa way back then I had to scrounge to find decent tools in metric sizes. I learned that a 9/16 wrench worked good for a 14mm (and two liters use 14mm regularly instead of the 13mm that are used on Giulietta, Giulia , 1750 and 2000 (but I had a 1/2 that worked pretty good for those). Now even American cars uses metric sizes.

[Fatfishblu]

Did anyone ever consider taking those wrenches and duplicating them? I'm sure there would be a lot of buyers (me for one). Maybe it's taboo to speak of such a thing? Don't mean to offend anyone with my suggestion.

[AR2000-102MX]

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Originally Posted by Fatfishblu Did anyone ever consider taking those wrenches and duplicating them? I'm sure there would be a lot of buyers (me for one). Maybe it's taboo to speak of such a thing? Don't mean to offend anyone with my suggestion.

[Redmerlin]

If you want something pretty but non functional to fill a gap in a box - these can easily be sand cast in aluminium. I bought a couple from a guy in the US 2 years ago. Good looking but lightweight.

[Fatfishblu]

Buying a 2000 tool kit is the last thing on my list. Funds can be better allocated towards repairing the hole in my trunk! In 5 years when my 2000 is complete, maybe my mindset will change. Right now, I'd rather put $3000 towards the purchase of Borrani wire wheels than an original tool kit. These are interesting to see pop up from time to time on eBay. I'm hoping to find one at a garage sale or flea market. So far all I'm finding are baby clothes and old records.

[DPeterson3]

There is hope for flea markets.

I scored one of the red/silver radio delete plates in Carson City, NV from a guy who scrounged it at a yard sale. Paid $85 for it, and it's in great shape. There was a time these things were the second-hot ticket behind the tool kit.

Now, I just need to track down the remnants of the 2000 that donated it's radio-delete plate in Carson City, NV. Maybe there's a tool kit sitting in some widow's garage?

[AR2000-102MX]

I want to share that the tool kit discussed early in this thread has been sold today to an european collector.

[Paketa]

Here is another very nice looking tool kit for sale. Looks complete. I guess we will see where the market is.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130735344027...witem=&vxp=mtr

[tubut]

There's something interesting and atypical with this toolkit. Undoubtedly, it's a 102 toolkit (in OK, but not spectacular condition). It's the first time I see something that looks like a foam or plastic mold insert holding the tools in a blue wood box rather than a painted wood ribs shown further above, but the color and aging indicate it might be original also. Has anybody else seen this before?

[IRONBLOCK]

Yes, not only have I seen one but I have one. Perhaps we could each post a photograph showing our tool box and list the cars serial number if the tool box was known to come with the car. I suspect this box would be from an early production number (since it matches the one in s/n 310, 1959) car but don't know for sure.

[fhb5032ar]

The other difference is that the arrangement of the tools is the same as the manual, while generally accepted toolkit is different.

Yes, I have a molded plastic liner, but even more alarming is that my toolkit is made of metal and covered in red vinyl. It's a different molding, not as sculpted around each tool, but more of a shallow "nest". I had it for sale on e-bay at one point and Ruedi pointed out all the differences.

When I bought the car, the title transferred was the original. As it happens, I'm the second owner outside the original owner's immediate family. I tracked them down - very easy since there wasn't a complicated chain of custody and was assured that it was the toolkit that came with the car.

It's chassis #1020400533 engine#00204-00527 Date of sale was 1/28/60. This info is all consistent with the original Warranty Card Booklet - only the first page is missing, I assume that card was sent back to Alfa to verigy the sale to William J Westphal of Dunkirk, NY. The dealer was Auto Land, Inc in Buffalo. It's listed in the Alfa Dealer Network handbook which also came with the car.

BTW, it's one with the short arm rear view mirror, no side spears, just the 4 chrome "louvers" on each side.

I think that I posted the picture of the toolkit at some point in this thread - or perhaps a different one on toolkits.

[tubut]

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Originally Posted by fhb5032ar I think that I posted the picture of the toolkit at some point in this thread - or perhaps a different one on toolkits.

[AR2000-102MX]

Hey Ruedi,

What´s your opinion about the starting price? That price was my reserve on the tool kit I sold recently, at the end it was sold outside Ebay for another value. It is quite strange the "right side", in the years of the 102, was so common and cheap to mold foam or plastic?