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Old 11-04-2009, 06:19 PM
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'58 2000 Spider Spark Plug Recommendations???

Can anyone please recommend the best plugs to use on a '58 2000 Spider?

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Old 11-04-2009, 07:09 PM
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From what I heard, NGK iridium plugs BR7EIX to replace Lodge 2HL and BPR7EIX (with projected insulator) to replace Lodge 2HLN seem to be best choices these days.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:01 PM
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7's may be a bit too cool

Rich, You are talking two liter. Tubut is talking 2600. They are close, but not exactly the same.

I have used NGK BP7ES and found they tended to foul unless I ran the car long enough to get it really up to operating temperature. On short hops as a daily driver I did not like to have starting problems. So, I tried BP6ES AND THEY WERE BETTER. So if a little was good, more seemed better, so I also tried the next hotter BP5ES plugs for a while. I did not burn any holes in the top of the pistons, but, frankly, I did end up buying a damaged car with a hole in the top of a piston on which the prior owner said he always used BP5ES. So, I started to think that maybe BP6ES was hot enough.

But I also wondered why not use good old American Champions. Started with N6Y at first (Letters stand for 14mm thread and extended tip, number is the heat range, but it goes opposite way -- larger number, hotter plug) and found I had to run the engine for a length of time to make sure it was hot enough to clean off the plugs so as not to be fouled and difficult to start later. Then I went to N9Y and later changed to N9YRC (or is it NR9YC?) to add the resister to avoid static on my radio and what also came with a copper core. THESE I RECOMMEND. Also tried a N12Y which I do NOT recommend. Too hot.

But I have also used Bosch Plugs and Autolite, and can't recall the exact number of the plugs. I've used the multi electrode types. Just be sure to get your plug in the correct heat range, and to do that get your local NAPA or Yankee parts house to show you the information and comparison charts on the various spark plugs. Tell them some stupid guy uses N9Y Champions made in America and have him tell you the matching heat range numbers for whatever brand you want to swear by or at.

But let me confess the "hot" or "cold" confuses me a little. Is it a hot plug that still works when it is hot, or is it one that does not cool and so the inside of the combustion chamber is too hot? I do recall that I have burned electrodes off of plugs. I believe those to have been on lower numbers of NGK (5's) and higher ones (12's) of Champion. Ask the person who has the various kinds of plugs to explain how the heat ranges work. I once had a 1965 Champion manual that explained everything and gave comparative heat range numbers for Champion pugs and showed the heat ranges of competitors.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:21 AM
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But let me confess the "hot" or "cold" confuses me a little.
The terms "hot" and "cold" are explained on this web page as follows: "The terms hot or cold refer to the temperature of the tip of the spark plug itself." This page shows that the shape of the ceramic tip near the electrode determines how hot or cold a spark plug is (i.e. how much heat can be transferred how quickly from the electrode to the cylinder head). This NGK web page explains it further and also has a short video showing the effects of too hold or too cold plugs and this page has a diagram showing the optimal operating temperatures.
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Ah Ruedi, I do so appreciate your good information. Now even I know why I am using the words correctly. Jay
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The NGK BR7EIX is the best choice for 102 spider engine

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Thanks for the replies - I'll give the NGK BR7EIX's a go.
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