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Group buy: Touring Spider windshields
I just talked to Matt Jones at Reoriginals. He doesn't stock the 102/106 windshields anymore but brings them in when ordered. The current price is USD 688 per windshield plus USD 60 for crating and about USD 190 for shipping to the Pacific Northwest (WA or Canada). Locations closer to Texas may be less. These are Sicurvetro windshields in original thickness (other windshields are usually thinner and don't fill the gaskets). Matt thinks delivery time is 2-4 weeks after he places the order.
Is anybody interested in a group buy and splitting some of the shipping costs?
Matt and I will talk about this order again at the Alfa convention in Portland. It would be great if any parties interested in a group buy could let me know ASAP.
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'63 2600 Touring Spider (reassembly in progress)
'65 2600 SZ (resto project)
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07-01-2009, 02:24 PM
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Windshield
Ruedi, put me down for one as I received a chip on mine when I went on the Spring Thaw Rally.
John
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07-01-2009, 02:54 PM
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Are we sure the 102 and 106 are the same (interchangeable)?
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07-01-2009, 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve O
Are we sure the 102 and 106 are the same (interchangeable)?
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I have not forgotten about the discussion in this thread. I don't think there was any confirmation or definitive conclusion as to whether they are different or the same (or if the re-manufactured glass has the same dimensions as the original glass, or if the windshield in question used the wrong rubber seals). The parts number documentation indicates the windshield are the same for both models.
I didn't ask Matt specifically about this issue but he didn't ask "which type" which he usually does if he's aware of issues or product variations or multiple versions. All he pointed out was that some other, cheaper products use thinner glass which creates issues with the seals.
A local restorer pointed out to me that old glass often used lead which kept it flexible and pliable and made it possible to fit into into frames under tension whereas modern glass would crack under the same conditions. This may have some implications on the tolerances of our handmade cars.
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'63 2600 Touring Spider (reassembly in progress)
'65 2600 SZ (resto project)
Maintainer of a 2600 SZ register (not the Dutch one).
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07-01-2009, 04:50 PM
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Depending on the deal, I'd like in on this. I've seen an installation in Mexico with the thinner glass, and it looked quite nice. I saw no gaps or voids around the gasket. It may be that an artfully applied silicone along the inside of the glass at the gasket would make any gap invisible in any case. It may also be that a slightly thinner glass would make it just a bit more flexible aiding in the installation. In either case, if there is a high-confidence in making the Securitivo glass fit (I'm doing a 102), then I'm interested.
Rgds,
Don
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Carson City, NV
past Alfas...
65 Sprint GT
59 102 Touring
102 Sprint
74 Berlina
61 Giulietta Race Car
86 Spider Veloce (1st time around)
86 Quadrafoglio (still struggling)
And
Stampe SV4C
Zlin 50LA
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07-01-2009, 06:27 PM
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I purchased both a new windshiled (2600) and new gaskets from Matt....unfortunately the installer ( an "oldtimer" with over 40 yrs experience) couldn't get the windshield to fit with the new gaskets. I suspect that the gaskets would have fit with thinner glass since they could compress more and squeeze into the frame.
so I'm left with a new windshield with old gaskets and a couple of gaps which I'll try to fill with black silicone
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07-02-2009, 06:50 PM
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That's what worries me, and I've heard the story about new glass and new gaskets not fitting before. I have a new set of rubber from Afra, and my old stuff is not nearly nice enough to use again, so have concerns about going this route. Does anyone have experience with the Afra windshield gasket? Perhaps that is the problem? Is there a trick of warming the rubber in warm/hot water first, or something that might help?
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Carson City, NV
past Alfas...
65 Sprint GT
59 102 Touring
102 Sprint
74 Berlina
61 Giulietta Race Car
86 Spider Veloce (1st time around)
86 Quadrafoglio (still struggling)
And
Stampe SV4C
Zlin 50LA
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07-02-2009, 10:53 PM
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Bought a pair of new old stock windshield in france. will sell one for $500 plus shipping.
regards
Herve
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07-17-2009, 04:40 PM
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ALFA 2000 2600 touring spider windshields
Hi All,
I am also interested in ALFA 2000 2600 touring spider windshields,
The windows made by Sicurvetro in Finland are very nice
-thickness as on originals
-period-style etched 'Sicurvetro'-marking; very important in a more serious
concours-event! (our brand is often mistaken as 'OEM', although it says 'prodotto in EU'... ;-)
-edges lightly hand-sanded in period-style for safer handling and longer shelf-life.
See SICURVETRO
The price depends on quantity 1x +/- euro 500,- 10x +/- euro 350,-
We can let make a lot for USA an a lot for EU
A robust wooden shipping-crate is 65,- euros (VAT 0%), exw
Shipping to Netherlands is usually in the region of 140-180,- euros, depending on total volume and end-destination (+2% optional insurance)
Shipping to USA ??
Rgds Franco
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07-17-2009, 10:12 PM
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102 and 106 windshield identical
Just put a windshield into my 59 spider. All new rubber with new glass. However, it took two people four hours. And both were very experienced. It is not any easy job. My recommendation. Put the sealer only on the deck top and inside the uprights, none on the inside against the glass. Put the glass in and bolt down onto car. Then put the top rubber and metal on windshield so all is held together in place. Do NOT immediately fill around the glass. Wait a couple days to let the windshield fit itself. Then use the sealer around the glass inside and out -- sparingly. Swear ONLY IN ITALIAN or some other language so those onlooking and listening are not shocked.
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08-02-2009, 08:10 PM
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Has anyone tried heating the rubber surround, perhaps in hot water, so that it is thoroughly softened before trying to do the assembly? Plus, waiting for a very hot day?
Don
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Carson City, NV
past Alfas...
65 Sprint GT
59 102 Touring
102 Sprint
74 Berlina
61 Giulietta Race Car
86 Spider Veloce (1st time around)
86 Quadrafoglio (still struggling)
And
Stampe SV4C
Zlin 50LA
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08-20-2009, 12:34 AM
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Group Buy
You must be mistaken, my email address as not changed and my phone number is the same. So everyone can get the correct story straight. You purchased an NOS windshield for $500 plus $200 shipping to Canada. You most likely damaged the windshield during installation and are asking me to return all your costs including the shipping, claiming the windshield was scratched and was not nos. You were not able to substantiate any of your claims and decided to ship back the item at my expense The package was fully insured by ups and a claim could have been filled at the time. If I do the math an item which you paid for $500 , damaged it and now you are asking me to pay $900.
and end up with it to use as a green house shade. Then you are leaving me a nasty message threatening me with a law suite, and posting erroneous informations on this B board. Back track you contacted me to purchase an NOS windshield, which was covered by your insurance policy and requested to have it shipped to Canada(lucky for me you do not live on the moon). You received the item properly packaged and then a few days later decided to return it under false pretense . As a courtesy I offered you your $500 hopping to file a claim with ups and have not to deal much further with a pain in the D like you. Not enough for you. You all tell me is this guy a real pain or what?
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08-20-2009, 05:36 PM
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Let's not have another P _ SSING CONTEST.
Let's not have another Jungle Justice vs all of Texas or a Dretecerini v. Mr. O on this board, please. I can see where both of you have positions that could be defensible. However, it would seem that there might be outside witnesses. I personally know that a windshield can be broken trying to install it, doggone it. And I doubt anyone would have the garbonzos to ship a windshield that was defective to start with. Who else saw the product either before shipping or upon receiving it? And was the packing done well? Please keep speaking directly to each other so you can finally solve it, and leave the ALFABB board out of it. We like you both.
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[B]JAY NUXOLL [/B][EMAIL="jay@alfanut.com"], seriously Alfa diseased and ancient OLD Two Liter Lover, put together Seattle area's Northwest Alfa Romeo Club in 1965, and still feebly tries to tend a teeny sacred flame to his serpent mistress in the [B]ALFA G'RAJ MAHAL[/B], a home garage temple with more Alfa cars and parts than he dare list because of the disapproval of his shamed and chagrined family. (425) 641-2600.
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