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05-02-2008, 04:24 PM
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acetone to improve gas mileage?
Is anyone using acetone to improve gas mileage on a 164? does it work?
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05-02-2008, 06:17 PM
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I would be a bit worried on what it would do to all the plastic and rubber bits, and would probably not try it.
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05-02-2008, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
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Is anyone using acetone to improve gas mileage on a 164? does it work?
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I have no comment but read this: snopes.com: Acetone Improves Gas Mileage
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05-03-2008, 07:18 AM
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I think you are asking for trouble with the fuel tank, gas lines, injector seals, and God knows what else the acetone would dissolve.
I've seen lots of home-brewed racing fuel recipes, and unless you know what you are doing & have properly prepped the car for this you will be @!$#ed. BTW, there are different grades of the chemicals used in these concoctions so, again, this isn't amateur-hour. Lastly, this is usually done for go-fast purposes, not fuel economy.
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05-03-2008, 07:54 AM
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Sounds like the birth of another ridiculous urban legend, with the price of gas we should see a lot more of these.
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05-14-2008, 05:27 PM
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two tanks and improved my mileage by 8 to 10%. granted not so scientific and I was a little more conservative.with the pedal....3 oz per 14 gallons (used a turkey baster to get it in the tank....should not have any effect on plastic or rubber with only 3oz a tank? The container you buy it in is plastic...
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05-14-2008, 06:14 PM
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Acetone does not work, and anecdotal "tests" do not count. You can easily vary your mileage by 10% or more just with weather, how you drive and all sorts of other variables.
Think about it. If acetone actually improved mileage 10% don't you think that car manufacturers would start doing it and be able to meet or exceed CAFE standards with out having to do the heavy lifting of redesigning everything?
Or if I was a small oil company and could prove my gallon was 10% better than your gallon and I could get 5% more $ for my gallon or get a larger market share than the big guys?
Next the "Fish" carburettor and the ionizing magnetic molecule alignment thingy will make a comeback.
Under controlled laboratory conditions acetone has actually been proven to to lessen mileage.
And to add fuel to the fire oil companies profit margins are less than 10% and are inline with most any other heavy industry. They do not have "excess" profit. If you want to punish corporations for making "excess" profits look at Google, Yahoo and hedge funds and other ones that have profits in the 25% area.
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05-14-2008, 07:54 PM
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If you want to get the best mileage out of your gallon of gas ,get good old honest gasoline without all of the additives that you get today, which by the way is not possible here! I remember when gasoline smelled like gasoline, not alcohol and additives! Unadulterated fuel gives the best mileage, end of story.
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05-15-2008, 08:08 AM
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I too have looked into using acetone in my fuel tank a couple of years ago for my MINI. It will not destroy any seals and will burn just fine, but it will not increase mileage. To keep your fuel system clean you should be using a Top Tier gasoline. It has more detergents than Johnny-No-Name down the street.
Top Tier Gasoline
If you want to save that 10% in fuel just slow down.
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05-15-2008, 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurricane
I too have looked into using acetone in my fuel tank a couple of years ago for my MINI. It will not destroy any seals and will burn just fine, but it will not increase mileage. To keep your fuel system clean you should be using a Top Tier gasoline. It has more detergents than Johnny-No-Name down the street.
Top Tier Gasoline
If you want to save that 10% in fuel just slow down.
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I agree. The way to save gas is to slow the heck down. Drive the speed limit, take off slow and brake slow. I never bolt from light to light. Makes no sense anyway.
I have to admit I don't do this all the time in my Alfa but we do drive like this with all our cars and get very good gas mileage. In-fact our VR6 Jetta got 21.8 MPG this last fill up (rated 17mpg in the city, all city driving as well).
I have added 2 psi more in each tire as well.
But seriously, we have seen an increase in MPG by driving...you know by the law.
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05-15-2008, 08:31 AM
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It's a wives tale. But I say do it if it makes you feel good. The worst that would happen is that the acetone will loosen all of the settled gunk that has accumulated in the fuel system and put it in the pumps, filters or injectors.
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05-21-2008, 02:10 PM
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Better fuel economy is achieved by minimizing use of the brakes!
BMW proved years ago that "jack rabbit" starts save fuel, not the reverse that is usually claimed. BMW even designed an engine dubbed eta as a result of these research results. Full throttle starts save fuel because although more fuel is used per unit of time less fuel is used in total. This is because the engine is not throttled so runs more efficiently at full throttle. The full throttle is used for a lot less time than part throttle for acceleration to the same cruising speed so the net result is less fuel consumed.
Diesel engines would show much less benefit from full throttle starts as these are not throttle controlled but fuel controlled.
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05-21-2008, 02:35 PM
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I remember that report from BMW. I couldn't really confirm it with my car, but it was more fun driving that way, although most people really did frown. Scientific data did not impress them, as they tended to say, "it doesn't feel to me like it should be true, so therefore it can't be".
Granted, I don't do peel outs (not what BMW was advocating, and no sense sending signals to the nearest cop), but to this day, I don't waste a lot of time easing up to the speed limit either.
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