Go Back   Alfa Romeo Bulletin Board & Forums > Alfa Romeo Technical Forums > 164 & 168 (1991-1995)


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-23-2008, 12:41 PM
MVP MVP is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 92
ATF Dextron III for TRANY?? SPARK PLUGS ?

Hi
I'm doing a fluid change on my tranny (5 speed) is ATF Dextron III the fluid of choice ?
Also I'm doing a tune-up and plan on using Bosch-Platinum+2 / Spark Plugs opion anyone ?
Thanks
fred
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-23-2008, 12:56 PM
Alfissimo Int.'s Avatar
Alfissimo Int. Alfissimo Int. is offline
Registered Alfa Addict
Platinum Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tempe, Arizona-US
Posts: 3,398
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVP View Post
Hi
I'm doing a fluid change on my tranny (5 speed) is ATF Dextron III the fluid of choice ?
Also I'm doing a tune-up and plan on using Bosch-Platinum+2 / Spark Plugs opion anyone ?
Thanks
fred
Yes, ATF Dexron III is correct, I myself prefer a brand you will not find but Castrol is very good, or some like redline but I have found no performance gain using redline for the money.
Stay away from MOBIL 1 ATF.

NGK iridium are better than Bosch IMO.

Jason
__________________
Jason Minos


Spider, 75, GTV6, 164, all New models ....
http://www.alfissimo.com
Tel: +1 480-858-9156 | Service: Tel +1 480-330-0844
Contact@alfissimo.com
Alfaparts@alfissimo.com
<1991' 164 QV, White- Recaro>
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-23-2008, 01:27 PM
MVP MVP is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 92
NGK iridium are better than Bosch IMO in what way are they better ?

Also how much fluid does it take to top off the trany ?

THANKS
FRED
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-23-2008, 02:57 PM
gt601's Avatar
gt601 gt601 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Louisville,Ky
Posts: 1,392
I have probably thrown away at least 100 Bosch platinum spark plugs over the years that have caused running problems in customers cars. If you have a perfect running car with no issues such as oil burning or running a little rich ( Alfa? ) they are okay. They are very prone to fouling. I would put them in the same boat as a split fire.
I prefer just a plain ol' NGK non platinum plug. Save your money for other things the car will need. I usually change them out every two or three years depending on how many miles I have driven. This also lets me know what shape the engine is in from the color of the plugs.

JMHO

Paul
__________________
The meek shall inherit the rear view mirror.

Alfas owned/own!
81 GTV-6
83 GTV-6
86 GTV-6
87 Milano Gold
88 Milano Verde
91 164S
77 Alfetta sedan
79 Alfetta GTV(smooshed and ground up)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-23-2008, 08:16 PM
Alfissimo Int.'s Avatar
Alfissimo Int. Alfissimo Int. is offline
Registered Alfa Addict
Platinum Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tempe, Arizona-US
Posts: 3,398
NGK iridium are better than Bosch IMO in what way are they better ?
IN EVER WAY THEY ARE BETTER. EVEN THE CHEAPY ARE BETTER THAN THE BOSCH +4'S.
THOSE THINGS FOULED SO DANG MUCH AND MADE THE CAR RUN SO POOR I FINALLY DUMPED THEM FOR NGK IRIDIUM FOR MY S BASED OFF THE ORIGINAL NGK FOR THE S. RAN SO MUCH BETTER. PLUGS ARE ALWAYS GOOD AND LAST A LONG TIME. I HAVE NOT CHANGED MINE IN AT LEAST 2-3 YEARS. CAR IS BACK TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE POWERWISE.

Also how much fluid does it take to top off the tranNy ?

2 LITERS FOR MANUAL.
AROUND 7 FOR AUTO.



THANKS
FRED

(wrote in caps so you could see it in your text)
Jason
__________________
Jason Minos


Spider, 75, GTV6, 164, all New models ....
http://www.alfissimo.com
Tel: +1 480-858-9156 | Service: Tel +1 480-330-0844
Contact@alfissimo.com
Alfaparts@alfissimo.com
<1991' 164 QV, White- Recaro>
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 08:09 AM
MVP MVP is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 92
Got myself some NGK per your advise.
Let me take a guess gap at .035 ?

THANKS AGAIN
FRED
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 08:27 AM
lowmileage's Avatar
lowmileage lowmileage is offline
Gennie Cream Ale please
Platinum Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Franklin & #414
Posts: 5,415
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVP View Post
Spark Plugs opinion anyone ?
Yea, I would run Bosch in my lawnmower. Don't sense the need to run anything by regular (and cheap) NGK's in the Alfa. And don't waste yer money on Golden Lodges either IMO (that you asked for).
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 09:32 AM
velocedoc's Avatar
velocedoc velocedoc is offline
Christopher Boles
Gold Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: At the other end of the state
Posts: 2,050
I put new Iridiums in the 164 because they are supposed to be 60,000 mile plugs. Who wants to take the time to dismantle all of the intake stuff just to get to the back plugs? Why waste your time working, when you can be driving. I run Iridiums in the wife's spider and in the Acura RL. Never a problem in any of them.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 10:59 AM
Del Del is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: seattle
Posts: 1,535
I run the NGK double plats in both the S and the LS, while I"ve been using the single electrode Bosch plats in the Milano. All seem to work just fine for thousands of miles in each car, although I agree that the Bosch quad plats just didn't work in the S or LS. They run too cold and thus foul. I don't know which is better, the NGK Iridiums or the NGK Plats, but both appear to be quality plugs.

I agree that using these long lasting plugs is the way to go, as who wants to keep changing plugs if they don't have to. These modern computer controlled fuel injection engines run so clean that regular inspection, as in the old days with the 60's and 70's 4 bangers, isn't warranted or necessary.

You don't however have to fiddle with the intake stuff to get to the rear plugs on any of these 164s, or even the Milano. All the plugs are readily accessible with standard Sears sockets, extensions, and ratchets. And, all plugs come pregapped, so changing the gaps upon installation isn't needed.
__________________
Del

Seattle

89 Milano
91 164S
94 164LS (Q)
72 Morgan 27

Last edited by Del; 03-24-2008 at 11:01 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-27-2008, 11:45 AM
KayGotz's Avatar
KayGotz KayGotz is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by MVP View Post
Hi
I'm doing a fluid change on my tranny (5 speed) is ATF Dextron III the fluid of choice ?
Also I'm doing a tune-up and plan on using Bosch-Platinum+2 / Spark Plugs opion anyone ?
Thanks
fred
I always used Castrol Dextron III and Red Lube Guard additive(recommended by ZF rep).
__________________
KayGotz
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



AlfaBB Blog Articles

Advertisement


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0
Copyright 2002-2008 AlfaBB.com All Rights Reserved.


An exclusive design by: Forumskin.com