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Steering rack exploded view

Does anyone have or know of a source of an exploded diagram for the 164's steering rack? I require one to ID some parts on mine.

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Go to this link. Alfisto Steve posted this awhile back.

Alfa 164 Power Steering Info

You can also find it by doing a search for steering rack and loof for a thread called Power Steering Info posted by Steve.
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164 Steering Rack exploded view (without damper)

Here are some pictures of 164 rack I think I posted before that are no longer showing up:
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Here are some pictures of 164 rack I think I posted before that are no longer showing up:
Some more shots of rack disassembled:
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Some more shots of rack disassembled:
Some more shots of rack:
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SOLD MY91 "Bianco" 164B 5-speed [My Originale], ALFISTO Movin On!
Also gone are Old Blue 91 164L, Rosso1 93 164L, Rosso2 91 164S; QS2 164L

Daughter's current ride: Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus

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164 rack seals

More pictures of seals:
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SOLD MY91 "Bianco" 164B 5-speed [My Originale], ALFISTO Movin On!
Also gone are Old Blue 91 164L, Rosso1 93 164L, Rosso2 91 164S; QS2 164L

Daughter's current ride: Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus

Current Car hauler and Parts chaser : 2000 Dodge Ram PU 5.2L V-8

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More info on rack with damper

Here is threads I started on my 93L rack with damper:

Rosso Rescue Project Steering Rack Update

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SOLD MY91 "Bianco" 164B 5-speed [My Originale], ALFISTO Movin On!
Also gone are Old Blue 91 164L, Rosso1 93 164L, Rosso2 91 164S; QS2 164L

Daughter's current ride: Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus

Current Car hauler and Parts chaser : 2000 Dodge Ram PU 5.2L V-8

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Wow! Thanks Steve

How on earth did I miss that
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Wow! Thanks Steve

How on earth did I miss that

What exactly are you trying to identify I didn't mean to scare anybody with full blown monty of rack's guts but there are a few parts.

Most of us are more worried about the boots and inner tie rod ends replacements thereof!

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SOLD MY91 "Bianco" 164B 5-speed [My Originale], ALFISTO Movin On!
Also gone are Old Blue 91 164L, Rosso1 93 164L, Rosso2 91 164S; QS2 164L

Daughter's current ride: Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus

Current Car hauler and Parts chaser : 2000 Dodge Ram PU 5.2L V-8

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Mine is clunking - The rack seems to have excessive play in the housing & obviously it needs to be resolved.

Strangely though, it doesn't leak fluid at all - considering it moves a good 10mm on the passenger's end of the rack.

I've ordered a seal kit, but I was curious as to what else I may have required before I get into ripping it out for a rebuild (It's the Wife's driver at the moment - I can't afford the hassle of having it off the road while waiting for bits)
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What is moving/clunking inner tie rod end socket, rack shaft in glide bushing or play in steering wheel?

If former you can replace bad ITR end, not much without rebuild if glide bushing worn, though. If some play in rack to pinon gear mesh you can remove some shims that are shown in my first picture in post #4.

If rack moving in rubber mounts then you need to see posts on that repair both by me and one of the OZ Alfisti who found a poly set of bushings somewhere down under.

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Daily drivers: USA models - 91 164L w/AT "Black Beauty I" ALFA4ME; 91 164S Black Beauty II ALFALFA

SOLD MY91 "Bianco" 164B 5-speed [My Originale], ALFISTO Movin On!
Also gone are Old Blue 91 164L, Rosso1 93 164L, Rosso2 91 164S; QS2 164L

Daughter's current ride: Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus

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I have poly mounts on the rack (I think it's me you were thinking of ), both ITR's are nice & tight. I suspect it's a combination of glide bushing & the gear meshing, hence the plan to strip it out & rebuild it. I had an interruption while practicing on my badly flogged & leaky spare rack & couldn't remember how it fitted back together...

Thankyou again for the piccies

(What is it with the spell check here? It thinks "Thankyou" is a mistake?
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Poly mounts?

evilgidget, where did you get poly mounts for the steering rack?

My repaired passenger mount failed and I'm currently using a cut-up neoprene beer holder covered in builders glue. I'd love to replace both steering rack mounts with a poly equivalent.
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Pentagon mount is standard Alfa.

I modified the passenger side with a D shaped one that I found in my parts shop discount bin. I think from memory it was from a laser, but can't be certain. I'll look more to see if I still have the photo with the part number on it.
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Bumping up steering rack info

I got my kits from Steering gears and steering gearboxes, rack and pinion steering gears and more. but they may or may not sell you one as some other people have tried to no avail.

This job is not for the faint hearted home boy project. I did this stuff for a living on Navy aircraft hydraulic components for many years and used to rebuild Lancia Beta power steering racks in my spare time eons ago.

As for replacing just shaft seal on passenger end you have to pull out circular wire to get shaft end guide and shaft seal out butr it is a special seal.

To get inner tie rod end off rack shaft you can drill out stacked area and use a plumbers wrench to get it off rack shaft. See link to my Rosso project or search for inner tie rod end (it is not called a ball joint).

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Daily drivers: USA models - 91 164L w/AT "Black Beauty I" ALFA4ME; 91 164S Black Beauty II ALFALFA

SOLD MY91 "Bianco" 164B 5-speed [My Originale], ALFISTO Movin On!
Also gone are Old Blue 91 164L, Rosso1 93 164L, Rosso2 91 164S; QS2 164L

Daughter's current ride: Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus

Current Car hauler and Parts chaser : 2000 Dodge Ram PU 5.2L V-8

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