Engine Bay Decals

[sjmst]

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Originally Posted by goats of it i took late last night === everyone who wants it send to me your email addy via PM and I will send yout the file-- about 5 meg

[sjmst]

Some advice I got on how to do this:

vector it in illustrator would be the best ... you need to take picts from above to start - head on .. then you rebuild the whole sticker in illustrator .. for someone that is good at it, it is doable ... then ya need to color correct while looking at the actual sticker

[ChazzyD]

Yes, most screen printers like Illustrator files for decals. I normally use Freehand though and then convert to Illustrator before sending to the printer, I just prefer it over Illustrator, old habits die hard. Apparently all these Catalyst decals have a different barcode on them? Omit that, just use one? Should I fix typos? Someone shoot a good pic of a '94 catalyst decal, please.
Charles

[sjmst]

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Originally Posted by ChazzyD Yes, most screen printers like Illustrator files for decals. I normally use Freehand though and then convert to Illustrator before sending to the printer, I just prefer it over Illustrator, old habits die hard. Apparently all these Catalyst decals have a different barcode on them? Omit that, just use one? Should I fix typos? Someone shoot a good pic of a '94 catalyst decal, please. Charles

[goats]

Good thing it wasn;t copyrighted! The car that sticker is attached to looks like a real POS!

EVERY SINGLE one I have ever seen (and I have three cars myself, the one that Sam posted, two others I have asked about) ALL have the right side crumpled up like that. Is concourse quality with the crumple or without?

[Alfisto Steve]

I have this one set of new M.Y. 92 164S decals all new and unused except the one copy I inserted of pulley and belt running.

Maybe Chazzy can use these to make up more 164S decals in orange for 91-92-93 models and then make up yellow decals for 91-92-93 B/L models with slight changes in engine codes and years but leave the bar code the same.

All the other decals except yellow spark plug one are used on most all 91-95 models.

Once Chazzy has correct size templates from these decals changing the numbers and color may not be a big deal to make 94-95 decals.

Does anybody have a 24v Q model that could confirm if engine decals are orange like S or yellow like LS?

I notice corner of decal in Goat's picture for vac hoses is a white background so we need a picture of that too.

See my pdf attachment.

[Alfissimo Int.]

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Originally Posted by goats Good thing it wasn;t copyrighted! The car that sticker is attached to looks like a real POS! EVERY SINGLE one I have ever seen (and I have three cars myself, the one that Sam posted, two others I have asked about) ALL have the right side crumpled up like that. Is concourse quality with the crumple or without?

[ChazzyD]

Thanks for that pdf Steve. Jason, that is exactly the kind of image I need to do these well.

decal list
1-catalyst - 3 color - year specific
2-caution, lightening bolt - 3 color - all years
3-belt danger - 3 color - all
4-coolant danger - 3 color - all
5-platinum plug - 2 color - year specific, model specific?
6-vacuum hose routing - 2 color - year specific, model specific?
7-plastic handle warning - 3 color - all
8-airbag warning decal - 3 color - all
9-AR advised fluids - 2 color - year specific, model specific?
10-AR genuine parts - 3 color - all
11--40/-40 - 2 color - all
12-premium fuel - 2 color - all
13-ten year airbag - 2 color - all
14-danger gas in pressure - 3 color - all

Please check my list and the cars they go on, feedback needed. This is a large investment in decals, BTW, if screen printed in a high quality. Are the decals from the fellow in Florida nice? Maybe we just need the catalyst decal made and the rest could be sourced from him? One could easily have $1,000 wrapped up in making a few hundred complete sets of these. Printing isn't cheap these days, I know because I work at one, but we don't do screen printing, unfortunately.
Charles

[sjmst]

Thanks to all you guys with technical know how for taking this on! Meanwhile, I have a buddy taking a stab at it, and if that works of course I will share.
Sam

[goats]

Hi Chaz

I have an old Pantone book that I can use for the color match-- prob not perfect but ought to be close enuf do you think?

The catalyst background was 109 C (yellow)

Do you want me to try to match colors on all decals?

Jason-- the right side crumple was the cat sticker-- If I was a mechanic I'd stand right in front of the car and apply the thing! Seriously-- I have seen 7 or 8 cars and they are all crumpled up on the right side (the cat sticker)

[Alfissimo Int.]

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Originally Posted by goats Hi Chaz I have an old Pantone book that I can use for the color match-- prob not perfect but ought to be close enuf do you think? The catalyst background was 109 C (yellow) Do you want me to try to match colors on all decals? Jason-- the right side crumple was the cat sticker-- If I was a mechanic I'd stand right in front of the car and apply the thing! Seriously-- I have seen 7 or 8 cars and they are all crumpled up on the right side (the cat sticker)

[Alfisto Steve]

Hardly any of the decals from FL guy actually are correct ones used on 164. Some of generic ones similiar but not correct size. I gave up trying to get feedback from him on the samples I sent him.

[sjmst]

Anyone have a shot of the cat sticker from straight above, "dead on," not on any angle? A guy who is working on this for us is asking.

Thanks

Sam

[ChazzyD]

I've already recreated the cat sticker, took about an hour last night in InDesign. I will convert it to an Illustrator eps file for anyone who wants to have some printed. Just send me an email.
Bob, my car is "decal poor" so Pantone matches would be helpful.
Jason, you have some dimensions on that decal?
Notice the word "CONFORM" on the actual decal, is correctly written as "CONFORMS" on the image of the decal in the manual (like Steve posted earlier), also in the third segment at the bottom, the type is moved over some to the right on the actual decal than the placement that is more lined up on the left in the manual's image of the decal. Do we want it to say "CONFORMS" as it should be or "CONFORM" as it actually is on the decal. I have the type as the actual decal at the moment. The decals with multiple hyphenated words in a row, crack me up! I wish I had typeset them originally, they would have looked better.
Charles

[ChazzyD]

I'm in need of the text on the middle two rows of type on the right side of the 94 Catalyst decal. The 95 is blank there.
Charles