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01-18-2008, 06:56 PM
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OK, just got my car back after having the chip instaled. I think it takes some time before the chip programs and gets to peak performance (?)
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01-18-2008, 07:03 PM
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It should work right away. It just adjusts the mixture and timing maps.
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01-18-2008, 07:16 PM
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This is hearsay, but i've heard that the Motronic system takes a few miles to get used to the chip... |
Just bare in mind that your gaining 14hp but at 6500 RPM.Little boost in power at 3500RPM with 11 hp gain over stock, but levels off around 9 hp gain until 5500 RPM and up.
If you do not like it let me know? The chips is mainly to enhance the cars performance but also keep the car drivable for standard street.
You should notice it more on the highway when your at 3500RPM or more, try passing a car doing 80MPH downshift and punch it, you will see a big difference. Off the line power should be pretty good as well.
Have fun!
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01-26-2008, 12:52 PM
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OK,took my car out for its first real test run with the squadra chip. Bottom line...big problem...I'm going to get arrested.  Too fast.
No, it does not turn the car into an Enzo or muscle car. But, it is quicker and more responsive all around. At 3,000 rpm, it feels like it has endless power still to go. Really quick and fun.
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05-14-2008, 07:41 AM
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Does the squadra chip work with 91 octane california gas?
A lot of the older BMW chips are having problems with the 91 octane gas and needed to be taken out.
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Originally Posted by Alfissimo Int.
Sqaudra is the only way to go. I distribute sqaudra chips. 100% satisfaction guarnteed with the chip. I guarantee the chip 100% even if you install it and break it I will replace it. I have worked with Squadra for a few years now and the owner and I have a very good repour.
Depending on model you can see anywhere from 10-16hp gain.
No CEL light on, no piniging. Excellent chip!
Let me know? Windshields - Alfissimo International - Tel: +1 480-858-9156 /Contact@Alfissimo.com
I also have installed them for customers if you send me the ECU. You pay for shipping and I install them for free.
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05-14-2008, 08:33 AM
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Does the squadra chip work with 91 octane california gas?
A lot of the older BMW chips are having problems with the 91 octane gas and needed to be taken out.
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I have 0 problems with my S with a chip and 91 octane.
Works very well. I love this chip on my S. I took it out for while to test the differences and I much rather have the chip. Power is much better on low end.
Ciao!
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05-14-2008, 08:46 AM
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Does the squadra chip work with 91 octane california gas?
A lot of the older BMW chips are having problems with the 91 octane gas and needed to be taken out.
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The Squadra website recommends 98 octane (Europe), which is equivalent to US 93.
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05-22-2008, 05:16 AM
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Jason, I wanted to get one of your chips for my S model, I spoke with Giovanni "at DiFatta", and he told me that unless you remove the cathalitic converter, chips do not make much of a difference. Can you explain to me what he was referring to? Do your chips call for removal to obtain maximum performance? Thanks!
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05-22-2008, 08:08 AM
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Jason, I wanted to get one of your chips for my S model, I spoke with Giovanni "at DiFatta", and he told me that unless you remove the cathalitic converter, chips do not make much of a difference. Can you explain to me what he was referring to? Do your chips call for removal to obtain maximum performance? Thanks!
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Removing the Cat will make the car faster period. But the S has a pretty high flow cat as is.
All the Hp/Torque gains are with a CAT in place.
11hp gain on a S.
I use one in mine and I find the car much better especially on the low to mid.
Very good torque. The car is much much quicker. No real loss of MPG.
Have always had good responses from customers on the chip. Never have had a unsatisfied customer.
The Cat does not have to be removed. If it did I would not bother selling these chips.
Now, removing the CAT would increase hp like I said even with out without a chip it would increase Hp.
So the comment above that a chip only works with it out is false. It is made to work with a CAT and is made to be a moderate chip to run on a street car with standard or performance items.
HP/Torque with CAT converter and stock exhaust system
Rev. limiter from 6500 to 6800 RPM.
Let me know. I have an order of chips going in next week.
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05-22-2008, 08:22 AM
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Hey, thanks for the info, I will look into adding one of these chips myself. So, you are talking about an 11HP give-take gain, let's say I wanted to gain about 20 overall, I don't really care about racing or going really fast as I find the stock S to fit my needs almost to perfection,. However, gaining 20 HP would making it just a bit better and more responsive while maintaining reliability, so, would one of these chips and a set of headers + K&N air filter do it? Do you have any dyno results for anyone with these mods?
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05-22-2008, 08:23 AM
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How much of a performance gain for an L engine? Will it give us the top end that we are lacking as opposed to the S engine?
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05-22-2008, 08:43 AM
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How much of a performance gain for an L engine? Will it give us the top end that we are lacking as opposed to the S engine?
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Very good torque as well:
Hey, thanks for the info, I will look into adding one of these chips myself. So, you are talking about an 11HP give-take gain, let's say I wanted to gain about 20 overall, I don't really care about racing or going really fast as I find the stock S to fit my needs almost to perfection,. However, gaining 20 HP would making it just a bit better and more responsive while maintaining reliability, so, would one of these chips and a set of headers + K&N air filter do it? Do you have any dyno results for anyone with these mods?
11 Hp yes. Not any less not anymore.
20Hp you need to do more internal work, port and polish, headers etc..
I think you will find the response with the chip very pleasing and really no need for much more than that. The sluggish response of the stock on low end is increased greatly and that is where you notice it the most but also mid to high end for example when you drop down to 4th on the highway or even 4th down to 3rd.
K&N, do a search in this section on K&N. We had a long discussion about those filters. Short version: Don't use them. Waste of money, brings in way more dirt than OEM paper and 0 gains from it. Also do not remove factory box for a cone filter either. You just bring in hot air and dirt. Worthless product.
17hp gain with our headers alone, with chip you could gain about 20ish. No dyno results from anyone with this specific set up but dyno results are from chip alone and headers alone not a combo or with port and polish.
Try the chip first and see if that is what you where looking for. If you want more then a port and polish or headers is where you want to go. The chip will enhance all your mods unless you go nuts.  These are all street mods, not full race. If that is the case we would have to start another thread on a 3.5L conversion.
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Ok, I was leaning toward the chip alone anyway, but the headers are always a temptation. As far as port and polish goes, this is more extensive work, I am not looking to get into all of this, I am more oaf a type of guy who would rather save the money to buy paint so that I can spray the car and make it look good. Once she runs well and she is reliable, what more do you want? I much rather have her out on the street with me than in the garage if you know what I mean. I have my Milano as a "garager".  |
05-22-2008, 09:40 AM
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Ok, I was leaning toward the chip alone anyway, but the headers are always a temptation. As far as port and polish goes, this is more extensive work, I am not looking to get into all of this, I am more oaf a type of guy who would rather save the money to buy paint so that I can spray the car and make it look good. Once she runs well and she is reliable, what more do you want? I much rather have her out on the street with me than in the garage if you know what I mean. I have my Milano as a "garager". |
You can also use a Remus or ANSA rear silencer for some free up of exhaust a little and also add a nice touch to it.
It is very reliable and if there is a problem that was not caused by improper install or something to that effect, I will take it back and get you a new one.
Never had any issues with the chips, only improper installation.
Let me know? I have an order for S chips going in this week.,if you want one please order it on-line and I can get one to you sooner.
Ciao!
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