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post #31 of 10541 (permalink) Old 02-23-2011, 12:41 PM Thread Starter
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Drove my black 164L to Fiat 500 dealer Virginia New & Used Car Dealerships | Chesapeake, Norfolk, & Washington DC | Southern Hospitality Auto Group and took the 500 Sport for a test drive. Ludy and Justin from their Fiat Studio brought the 500 to our dinner meeting last night for test drives but I waited until today so I could get some pix.

I think Fiat has a hit on their hands.
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Drove my black 164L to Fiat 500 dealer Virginia New & Used Car Dealerships | Chesapeake, Norfolk, & Washington DC | Southern Hospitality Auto Group and took the 500 Sport for a test drive. Ludy and Justin from their Fiat Studio brought the 500 to our dinner meeting last night for test drives but I waited until today so I could get some pix.

I think Fiat has a hit on their hands.
Love the pic of the alfa and fiat facing each other!

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Now I wonder if that particular 500 in 20 years' time will be in the same shiny condition as your Black Beauty 164 - somehow I doubt it!

The photo from the rear really shows the way that even a small car is so tall these days - I guess that's inevitable to get the interior space we need. I'm not sure that the 500 wins any beauty awards from me but it is a clever remake of the original and FIATs are pretty well-made these days, with all the features you expect in a new car. The original 500 was basic even by the standards of the day; this new 500 has quite a bit more equipment than the other small cars made by FIAT - things like stability control, seven airbags, auto hill-holder brake, Xenon lights on some models, and a good sound system.

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It is a little butt ugly in a cute sort of way and yes as you can see it is higher than a stock height 164.

It is fun to drive though. I think I could probably keep the paint as shiny in 20 years as BB is after 20 years. HOWEVER, I probably would have to have somebody else drive me around in it by then.

Peter Vack has a good review story on 500 today http://www.velocetoday.com/archives/16819

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Daughter's current ride: BB1 my 164L and Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus is back up.

New parts hauler but not car hauler 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4.7L H.O. V-8

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"A day without an Alfa whine is like a day without sunshine"

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Alfa related today?...I broke the drivers outside door handle I haven't worked on my Alfas for several months. I've been busy on the new, old house. The house isn't broke and 2 of the Alfas are. Time to do some Alfa wrenching.

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I was just reading the Winding Road review of the 500 and the Sport is supposed to be the one to get in terms of performance and value. I want one bad. So far the closest dealer is going to be in Nashville. Hopefully that will change and we will get a "Studio" soon.
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IMHO the Fiat 500 isn't very attractive compared to the MiTo or the Giulietta. The thing to get excited about is Alfas return.

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IMHO the Fiat 500 isn't very attractive compared to the MiTo or the Giulietta. The thing to get excited about is Alfas return.
I think based on pix the butt of Giulietta is nicer looking but not wild about front grille look.

Pocket book wise I might be able to afford a 500 Sport not sure about Alfa and I could buy (order) a 500 Sport now.

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Daily drivers: USA models - 1991 164S Black Beauty II ALFISTO;

Daughter's current ride: BB1 my 164L and Her Granddads 2002 Ford Taurus is back up.

New parts hauler but not car hauler 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4.7L H.O. V-8

Needing TLC non-blackbeast the 93 164L

"A day without an Alfa whine is like a day without sunshine"
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Your right Richard, the Alfas are even more appealing and I can't wait to see them on the road when/if they get here, but the 500 starts at $15,500 and is available in a few short months! Very tempting.
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I fixed the horn on the 164, it hasn't worked since I got it 2 years ago and has been driving me nuts! Finally after one too many idiots have pulled out without looking I decided to fix it. Checked all the wires I could find and there was no obvious loose connections or corrosion. Pulled the horn pad off the center of the steering wheel and what do ya know, a dangling wire in the steering column but no sign of anywhere to connect it. Somehow the previous owner had managed to lose the wires on the horn pad itself (the three wires that go under the springs to make contact when you push the pad) so no wonder the horn didn't work! A quick trip to the local alfa guy and a rummage around his parts 164 had my a nice horn pad complete with wires.

Now the horn works like a dream, so much so I think I pissed my neighbors off when coming home at 1am last night, tipped the 164 into my road in typical alfa 164 fashion (heaps of body roll and the front tyres on the edge of adhesion) and my hand must have rolled slightly and pressed the horn . Driving to work this morning the neighbor gave me a stern glare as I passed, between the 164 and the GTV6 I think he's surprised I haven't ended up in his front lawn with the way I tackle that corner .

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post #41 of 10541 (permalink) Old 02-27-2011, 03:58 AM Thread Starter
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Drove my white 164B to Italian Bakery to meet the car guys and gal yesterday. Ludy brought her new Fiat 500 Sport demonstrater again from Fiat Studio at my request.

Hard core Truimph driver drove it and was quite impressed. It was amongest fine company as we had 308, 512 and 360 Ferraris, 2008 Yellow Lambo, older Jag sedan, TR4, and my 164B.

Now if I can figure out how to get the pix off my cell phone as I forgot to take my camera.

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New parts hauler but not car hauler 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4.7L H.O. V-8

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REplaced broken outter broken door handle yesterday.

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Worked on my income taxes to see if there will be enough refund to buy new seat upholstery for my '91 spider...


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A friend got me a Parrot 3200 colour handsfree kit for 20€ (used, not stolen).

Took the radio off and wired the kit. It's really simple, the harness has to be connected in series with radio (both power and speakers connections), so it turns on and off with ignition and automatically mutes the radio, even if the radio is one of those that require a special connector to enable mute functions (as does my blaupunkt london mp35).

As I didn't have a fixing bracket for the control panel and didn't want to glue anything, I fabricated a bracket out of scrap copper sheet I had around, el cheapo's way. The bracket went nicely into the seam under the right side of the indicators pannel, nothing rattles or shakes, no screws, no glue.

Unfortunately I can't see the screen very well but still I can pick the calls without taking risks (fine is 500€, an accident, even worse).

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Looked at the '91 Spider parked in the garage, which reminded me that I need to fix the broken off base of the passenger mirror, with the threaded rod repair. That and following the slow introduction of the 500 and wondering when I will see one on the road. The rumblings are that the 500 dealers will get first dibs on Alfa dealerships, maybe in a year or so? Yes I know it has been a "year away" since about 2001 but hope springs eternal. I had long since given up hope of ever seeing a Fiat sold in the US and that is happening, it was up there with pigs flying....

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