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Old 12-06-2008, 09:32 PM
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Universal car gate garage Learning fob Remote Remocon - eBay (item 280275196259 end time Dec-07-08 00:05:25 PST)
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:14 AM
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Nobody with orphan remotes out there?
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:37 AM
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I was trying my new remote today> I programmed it using the auto method in the instructions which seemed to work fine , but it does not work at all. my original remote does work, I just have to hold it together. its 20 degrees outside today so I am not going to spend to much time playing.. I'll try the manual method this week. my freq. jumper is on #2 not #3 as yours is . The new remote did blink 3 times showing it copied the freq. and I did tune for max brightness. Robb
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:51 AM
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Did you remove the "learning" pin jumper?
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Yep...made sure of it
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:13 PM
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Not sure what to suggest except maybe try again? Maybe try jumper 3 also?
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:16 PM
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I tried auto mode with the jumper on #3. tomm I will try manual. its toooo cold outside to play with today, besides Steelers play in 1 hour...
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Old 12-07-2008, 12:37 PM
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More than likely, anyone with remotes also has the car they came from. Anyone with a car and no no remotes isn't who you're looking for. I have about three remotes but also have the cars they go with. I think. One working remote with car. One working remote with wrecked car known to be correct. One not working remote thought to go with another non-working car but they never worked together since purchase. Possibly for multiple reasons like the siren was switched off and I don't know whether the remote brain box is still there. I'll get that sorted out soon. Congratulations on your trailing arm mount repair success, too.

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Old 12-08-2008, 06:10 AM
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I noticed that this remote control can handle mulitiple codes "if they are transmitted at the same frequency." Does anyone here know whether the 12V car remote codes are all on a common frequency? I'd have thought so, and if so, then one remote could handle multiple cars. As we have a small fleet of 12V 164s, this could be of interest to us.

Also, I read through the Owner's Manual and couldn't find any comment about whether the remote locking function continues with the siren locked out. It didn't seem to be addressed, the presumption being that the siren would be enabled except during certain maintenance operations.

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I noticed that this remote control can handle mulitiple codes "if they are transmitted at the same frequency." Does anyone here know whether the 12V car remote codes are all on a common frequency? I'd have thought so, and if so, then one remote could handle multiple cars. Michael
This was my next question/point. Wonder if we are running at the same "alfa frequency?"

This was one of the purposes of requesting a second, bastard child remote.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:14 AM
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I have three different fobs, two of which I -know- work on particular cars (one totaled out), so I can transfer the receiver from the totaled car to another car. However, as I think it over, I am -very- interested in how the unit "learned" a car code without having the control fob in hand. If it is sophisticated enough to listen to the receiver "leaking" its code, then none of these cars is by any stretch of the imagination "locked" if remote operation is enabled. Maybe we should then all go aftermarket to code-hopping logic units.

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edit: Maybe the unit got the code from your control fob, but you then homed in on the frequency for broadcast without further reference to the fob? That makes it sound less inherently insecure.

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... as I think it over, I am -very- interested in how the unit "learned" a car code without having the control fob in hand. If it is sophisticated enough to listen to the receiver "leaking" its code, then none of these cars is by any stretch of the imagination "locked" if remote operation is enabled.

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edit: Maybe the unit got the code from your control fob, but you then homed in on the frequency for broadcast without further reference to the fob? That makes it sound less inherently insecure.
I don't think the remotes can sniff out the needed frequency, I think I may have just been lucky on my remote (as your edit implies).

Also - those of you who read this and have successfully (or unsuccessfully) programmed the universal remote, why not chime in so we can get a general "success rate?"
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:28 PM
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Some folks have been buying copies from the link you posted. I saw the # available dropping. I bought one, too, investing $20 for a prospective good time. The # available from that link is now 1. I suspect that some of the purchasers are from this board. Mine will arrive sometime in the next few days, I think.

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ok, I spent an hour playing with the remote this morning. Here is what I do know.

1. My factory remote does work and is falling apart. does anyone have a bad remote with a good case ? that would solve my problem.
2. with the Remocon in the auto learn mode I can get it to match with the factory remote and get the green led very bright and the led blinks 3 times as the instructions state.
3. I then take off the programming jumper and the Remocon does not trigger my car.
4. I then tried to do it manually 2 ways. 1 with the programming jumper on and then going thru each freq. jumper. 2 with the programming jumper off and going thru each freq jumper.

Do the other buttons do anything or can they be programmed? If step 2 works I take it that the single chip on the Remocon does work and is transmitting but I do not have a freq counter to test on. It was only $15 so no harm done money wise, but I would like to be able to use my alarm. Robb
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:27 AM
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Gorilla glue for the case? Try one of the other code buttons? Look for another frequency "match"? Check whether your frequency selection agrees with Rob's?

Michael

Maybe with a little epoxy you could even fill voids where itty bitty pieces are missing from your possibly shattered fob case? My remote will probably be here by the weekend, so I'll be able to experiment, too.

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